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Ramps from Halfordz

Post by markov1723 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:51 pm

Hi, anyone use these ? I know they are rated for safety at 1000KG each and the unconverted bongo is 2260 KG ..
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by wonkanoby » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:49 pm

and you will only be supporting one end of it ie half the weight
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by markov1723 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:52 pm

wonkanoby wrote:and you will only be supporting one end of it ie half the weight
I like the sound of that

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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by Muzorewa » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:06 pm

On the other hand, we've got a pair of ramps in the way that we're unlikely to use. If they were going to a good home it could be an excuse to take Muzette for an icecream at the weekend.... :wink:
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by the laird » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:28 pm

Muzz remember the saying!,,,little pickets end up with bigger knickers! :D :D :D :D :D :oops:
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by markov1723 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:49 pm

Muzorewa wrote:On the other hand, we've got a pair of ramps in the way that we're unlikely to use. If they were going to a good home it could be an excuse to take Muzette for an icecream at the weekend.... :wink:
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by Simon Jones » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:43 am

markov1723 wrote:Hi, anyone use these ? I know they are rated for safety at 1000KG each and the unconverted bongo is 2260 KG ..
Only if you forget to remove the passengers ;)

Kerb weight: 2wd: 1770kg / 4wd: 1790kg
Gross weight 2260kg
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by grey fellah » Tue May 20, 2014 4:33 am

the total weight is over 4 wheels, each ramp supports a 1/4 of the total weight, got a pair of these myself, no probs
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by helen&tony » Tue May 20, 2014 10:12 am

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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by Simon Jones » Tue May 20, 2014 5:23 pm

The weight will not necessarily be evenly split four ways either. I've got rear conversion & an LPG tank so the rear axle is bearing more weight than the front.
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by nth » Tue May 20, 2014 8:42 pm

The front & rear axle weight division of a vehicle depends mainly on engine position & drivetrain arrangement, eg a front engine front wheel drive car will have a way heavier front axle weight than rear axle weight. All of the bongo engine & transmission variations have different weights. The heaviest Bongo (2.5d 4WD auto) has a front axle weight of 1116kg & a rear axle weight of 744kg. Obviously this is a standard 8 seater.
Your ramps should easily take a standard bongo.
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by rita » Wed May 21, 2014 8:44 am

I always thought that ..when lifting the two front or rear wheels of off the ground you were in fact basically taking most of the weight of the vehicle.
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by Driver+Passengers » Wed May 21, 2014 9:25 am

rita wrote:I always thought that ..when lifting the two front or rear wheels of off the ground you were in fact basically taking most of the weight of the vehicle.
(Science alert...)

If so, then you would easily be able to lift the rear off the ground... it's a class 2 lever - falcrum is the back (or front) wheels, load is nominally the center of gravity and the effort is the front (or rear) jacking point.

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With ramps, the effort exerted upwards by the ramps will be equal to the weight on those ramps.
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by Simon Jones » Wed May 21, 2014 9:29 am

Imagine you had a wooden box with a handle at each end & a heavy lead weight at one end. When lifting the handle on the end opposite the lead weight, you would have to put in much less effort as it will be pivoting on the heavy end. If the weight was exactly in the middle, then the effort required to lift either end would be identical. At least, that's how I see it...
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Re: Ramps from Halfordz

Post by helen&tony » Wed May 21, 2014 11:08 am

Hi
Oh, boy, I wasn't going to comment, but all wrong, I'm afraid, as the mechanics of raising a car on ramps is far more dynamic, and involves calculations involving the rearward shifting of the C. of G.
Suffice it to say I wouldn't recommend creeping under a vehicle of the Bongo's weight on ramps which are probably made in an obscure Eastern European factory, or China, given a dollop of paint, and a nice sticker....The safest way is to hire workshop space at a garage with a lift or a pit!...or drive up the kerb in the road :wink:
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