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seat for rock and roll

Post by Surface2air » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:15 pm

Ello ello... We've got a Wellhouse rock and roll bed in't back and wondered if anyone's got the same and if so what baby seat do you use? Thanks for looking :D
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Post by Surface2air » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:28 pm

Awwww... never mind. I'll do a bit more research. We may just diasable the passenger seat airbag and put a rear facing seat in the front there.. Just means the missus will be relegated to the back :lol:
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Post by Simon Jones » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:16 pm

I don't recall seeing a switch to disable passenger side airbag...
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Post by Surface2air » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:29 pm

Simon, of course you are correct. Shame :-k
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Post by Surface2air » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:27 am

Ahh bummer... Looks like we'll probably HAVE to sell... (the van, not the baby)..
The rock and roll bed with its loose seat pads and poorly positioned seat belts just wont be safe or suitable and the front seat is out because of the air bag.
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Post by Simon Jones » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:42 am

Have you contacted Wellhouse? I'm sure they would have come up with a solution for another customer in the past or at least could advise you who could modify the seat to allow a child seat to be fitted. There may also be a company that could fit a switch to disable the front airbag.
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Post by Surface2air » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:26 pm

Simon Jones wrote:Have you contacted Wellhouse?
Yeah, we contacted Wellhouse first and he directed us here.

I will do some research regarding the airbag and possible modification.
As ever Simon, thanks for your response... sense seems to just eminate from you :D
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Post by Bisto_Blue » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:32 pm

We had exactly the same issue, and could not find a suitable solution anywhere on the internet.

In the end I had Unwin tracking (http://www.unwin-safety.com/) professionally fitted behind the passenger seat.

I then ordered a single seat with an Isofix mounting point supplied by Scot Seats (http://www.scotseats.co.uk/) which is M1/Crash test certified for use with Unwin tracking.

I now have an additional seat behind the passenger seat in my side conversation (insurers notified), which I can put in and remove as and when required, and can safely fit an Isofix child seat to. When camping, it is just part of the routine to take the seat out, and store in the Quechua Base Seconds (it makes a comfy chair!) and it takes about 3 minutes (although it is quite heavy).

It's cost me about £400 in total, but at least I get to keep the Bongo!!! :D

Re: Disabling Airbag. A local reputable Bongo garage did say to me this could be done, but I am a little wary of the insurance implications of tampering with a security fitting. :D
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Post by g8dhe » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:26 pm

Disabling an Air-bag is now an MOT failure as well.... came in this year.
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Post by Surface2air » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:38 pm

Bisto_Blue wrote:We had exactly the same issue
Sounds ace that! thanks for the response. Would love to see a picture if you have the time =D>
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Post by Poohbear » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:49 pm

g8dhe wrote:Disabling an Air-bag is now an MOT failure as well.... came in this year.
Not with a switch surely, as some cars come with a switch to disable the airbag as standard?
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Post by Simon Jones » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:36 am

Switches to disable passenger airbag with a key are pretty much standard on all cars. It is officially recognised that having an airbag deploy on a rear faing child seat does a lot more harm than good. You can buy kits to fit a key-activated switch although these are from the US, so the process for getting the work signed off may be different over here: http://www.airbagsystems.com/switches.html
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Post by Bisto_Blue » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:13 pm

Surface2air wrote: Sounds ace that! thanks for the response. Would love to see a picture if you have the time =D>
I'll have a go! Can't embed from Sky Drive, so you'll have to follow the links.

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The seat has a three point integral belt, and an Isofix mounting point. You can see the quick release clamps.

The tracking goes through the floorpan, and is recessed almost flat to the floor, but we just have a rug over the floor anyway.

Its not ideal for access to the rear with a big baby seat on the chair, but I can squeeze through and I am 6 5".

Without the baby seat in, and the seat slid forward on the tracks, you could actually seat 5 in the vehicle if you have seat belts on the RnR bed.
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