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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:18 pm

Thats exactly what I need.
Ideally I coudl take the back seat out and put some of our bikes in when 4 of us go out.
What seats are used? I thought the Mazda ones are 3 seaters?
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by Dabs » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:35 pm

winchman wrote:Thats exactly what I need.
Ideally I coudl take the back seat out and put some of our bikes in when 4 of us go out.
What seats are used? I thought the Mazda ones are 3 seaters?
The seats are cut down versions of the original seats i think @ 300mm are removed and then the seats are welded back together and upholstery re done.....neat!! 8)
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by dave_aber » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:51 pm

The seats they use look the same as my back seat - as Dabs says, approx. 300mm chopped out, frames re-assembled, and the covers modified to suit.

No idea what they would cost on their own, but as a guide I paid £350 to have the covers re-made to suit my seat. The steelwork was all done by me, so free(ish). I've since heard from professional converters that they would expect to pay a similar price for the re-upholstery.

To give you an idea of what's inside the seats, look in my "Seats" album : Here.

Of course, you need to move the offside rail over by the same amount as well. Click the link in my sig for photos of that.

Edit - Looking back at my own photos, I have removed 58mm from the small 'half', and 278mm from the big 'half' - this was to achieve an overall reduction of 336mm to match the position of the floor rail (dictated by the ridges in the floor) and to make each half equal halves. I could have just chopped 336mm from the big side, but that would have made it 58mm narrower than the other side. Re-upholstery would have been cheaper though!
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:12 pm

dave_aber wrote:
To give you an idea of what's inside the seats, look in my "Seats" album : Here.

Of course, you need to move the offside rail over by the same amount as well. Click the link in my sig for photos of that.

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Thanks I cant find the runner info?
The bit I am struggling with is the Bongos I have seen only have rear seats that fold up to the side of the van?
Do some have full length runners?
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by Muzorewa » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:46 pm

winchman wrote:
dave_aber wrote:
To give you an idea of what's inside the seats, look in my "Seats" album : Here.

Of course, you need to move the offside rail over by the same amount as well. Click the link in my sig for photos of that.

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Thanks I cant find the runner info?
The bit I am struggling with is the Bongos I have seen only have rear seats that fold up to the side of the van?
Do some have full length runners?
Some have flip-up or gull-wing type rear seats and some have a full width bench seat (three seater with two proper belts and one lap-belt). This is for the third row of seats. As far as I know the middle row of seats is the same on all but some people turn that row round so they're rear-facing.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by dave_aber » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:43 pm

Yes, the non-flip seat versions have full length runners.

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These are before modification,

and this is the offside one moved over:
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click the link in my sig for the whole album.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:14 pm

So the only ones I have seen with runners are non pop tops? Is this correct?
Once they are cut down how do you sort seat belts?
Sorry more questions.
If some more of my stuff sells next week I will start having a looka round for my own cant wait LOL
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by dave_aber » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:25 pm

No, there is no link between the roof type and the seat types.

The flip-up seats seem to be more common on older Bongos, and are quite rare on the very latest ones.

The nearside seatbelt is unchanged, and for the offside seat which is next to the kitchen I fitted it to the seat frame and beefed up the seat back to provide a mounting point. It is of course a bit of a compromise as the seat back hinge could let go in an accident, but the original seat in that position (middle) had a lap belt only, and this is as good as or better than that.

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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:00 pm

Thanks
Thats exactly how I would like mine, but here are some of my problems and solutions, feel free to comment incase I havent a clue :LOL
I have a small budget, 2-2500 tops.
I need it to be a camper from day one for the insurance, so if I find a pop top they class that as a camper, but cheaper ones with out pop top I have seen are just MPVs so I would have to add stove etc then they would insure as a camper, thought about adding one at rear like some previous posts, so how much room is at the rear between the back seat and the door?
Once I saved some money up I would like to copy you conversion as its just perfect for what we need as we take the elderly inlaws out with us so need 4 adults and two big tall kids aged 12 and 15.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by dave_aber » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:54 pm

The DVLA have a set guideline regarding the equipment level they need to be fitted before they will re-register a van as a campervan. Basically, it needs a bed (can be made from the seats), sink, 2-burner hob, storage and a table. Your insurer may (or may not) use the same criteria - Lifesure insured me as "work in progress", and on completion needed a certificate from a motorhome engineer to show that the construction was up to standard.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:14 am

THats a good point and something I asked Adrian Flux, but they said if it has the seats that convert to beds and a pop top they call it a camper, if no pop top its an MPV unless it has a stove etc
Most of the insurance cos I called wouldnt do it as it had 8 seats so they wont call it a camper, stove or no stove
Cheapest quote is from Flux limited to 6000 miles £320, second car etc
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Re:my insides

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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by 2manymadmonkeys » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:41 am

Hi is it easy to take out rear seat I'm thinking of making a rear side conversion that replaces one rear side seat
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:16 am

2manymadmonkeys wrote:Hi is it easy to take out rear seat I'm thinking of making a rear side conversion that replaces one rear side seat
If its the runners in the floor type
Once you have done it you will think is that it! its a really good design and I feel you should have the rear seat out in 10 mins.
Look at this
http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =1&t=50477

Undo the rear floor trim, unbolt seat lift it out, slide runners out, ( cover carpet end to stop getting grease on it).
If its the wall mounted one I would think its just a matter of unbolting it
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by 2manymadmonkeys » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:05 am

No it's the split rears seat that fold up
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